so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. who does have influence over pyongyang? even the chinese are quite frustrated but at the same time i would imagine that they are also not willing to completely abandon the north koreans because they don't want to see instability along their border. that is something they don't want to see. so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. >> all right, victor cha and spyder marks, thank you to you both for your perspective on th